He's not particularly awesome looking and isn't gamebreaking OP in comparison to his counter part. So if it turns out that Excalibur Umbra is better than his Prime counterpart, or comparable, this won't be an issue anymore, at least with him. Good, then you know that were a lawsuit to be brought up, it wouldn't hold a candle in court, if anything DE would countersue for the legal fees of paying their lawyers.

I view things like, for instance, the Vandal versions of the Lato and the Braton the same way, but the thing is we have the Braton Prime in the latter case.

as for the people who came in later it's like the corrupted ashbringer in WoW, you'll never see it again, and you'll be jealous of the few people that still have it, but it doesn't really make the game any different. He came with his own Warframe slot and was already augmented with an Orokin Reactor.

More than anything though, he is a symbol for one of the benefits of taking a risk.

There is no such things as exclusive weapons that impacts or break gameplay.

The fact is, a LOT of people would have shelled out some cash to help out DE in the beginning, if they only knew about it. This would be much less of an issue to me if it was just a skin, but it's not, it actually impacts gameplay. Third off, this makes no sense, if you could sue due to the change of fundemental aspects of a digital product, then I could sue DE for changing their game so much, it no longer resembles the closed beta version, see the problem here? I like the Lato.

Being aware of a game (especially at launching) is not enough to help his development. Gave them the weapons of the old ways. They had turned our weapons, our technology, against us. There are founders that will not under any circumstances break that contract off, and so long as even a single one doesn't, it will remain exclusive. You again fail to provide evidence for this claim. So if it turns out that Excalibur Umbra is better than his Prime counterpart, or comparable, this won't be an issue anymore, at least with him.
More than anything though, he is a symbol for one of the benefits of taking a risk.

EFFICIENCY 100%. When I read arguments like this, it bothers me deeply that it always boils down to what the designers have the legal right to do or not do. A lot of us did it for the love of the game, and the Warframe team understands and respects that; it's why a lot of us founders keep coming back for more.I was a poor student when I scraped together the founders pack 50 bucks, not knowing if this game was going to amount to anything, but thought the concept was just so cool and new. They're definitely contributing to keeping the game alive. I personally blame marketing. They're definitely contributing to keeping the game alive.

I view things like, for instance, the Vandal versions of the Lato and the Braton the same way, but the thing is we have the Braton Prime in the latter case. Of course they would. DURATION 100%. But back to the argument: Players are upset that they can't get excal p because most people have the mindset of collecting every single thing in a game (may have started with Pokemon, but I'm guessing on that).

the other option which would make it pointless is if DE went into a money issue and released excal prime for purchase again before ditching the game so basically take the money and run situation which with the game gaining so much people and revinue RN that does not look probable Excal prime is fucking redundant thanks to excal umbra and his nikana, get your exclusivity shit on nerds

I do love my Excalibur prime, but often times feel bad breaking him out because of all the shade that gets thrown my way, usually in chat.

Some haven't as well.

if they were they might have not even given platinum trading option to players and made the in game items hard to obtain.
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This would be much less of an issue to me if it was just a skin, but it's not, it actually impacts gameplay. wrong quote, this is the section I meant to quote. They understand that we took a risk with a startup like this, especially one that is free-to-play, but is also not pay-to-win. Quotes from this wiki are not legally binding contracts nor advertisement. which they later on upgraded this game and made it what it is today. Or hell, for people who paid a lot of money for platinum, which happens a lot. DE doesn't have time or the money for the class action lawsuit they'd deal with regarding the redistribution of 3 IPs that others hold rights to. Excalibur Prime is the epitome of mobility and offense, and features the same abilities as Excalibur, but has unique mod polarities installed allowing for greater customization.
I'm not one of those people who wanted to have every single frame, or max every weapon or w/e, but if i didnt have a physical thing to look at when i get ready to go out (the grandmaster founder shirt) i would have forgotten about this game years ago.

Long story short, don't throw shade or turn this into a legal argument (on both sides), just let those of us that took a risk have fun and not feel bad about it.. four years is an awful long time to be arguing about this stuff anyway... I wish there was a way (besides Riven mods, which I think is a really weak argument) to make it more powerful, especially in the lategame. 4.DE has made it clear they do not intend to bring the founder program back. I feel inclined to point out that the idea that Excalibur Prime is "fair" is based on the assumption that everyone who ever played the game was aware of it while the Founders packs were still available. I do love my Excalibur prime, but often times feel bad breaking him out because of all the shade that gets thrown my way, usually in chat.

He's not particularly awesome looking and isn't gamebreaking OP in comparison to his counter part. So if it turns out that Excalibur Umbra is better than his Prime counterpart, or comparable, this won't be an issue anymore, at least with him. Good, then you know that were a lawsuit to be brought up, it wouldn't hold a candle in court, if anything DE would countersue for the legal fees of paying their lawyers.

I view things like, for instance, the Vandal versions of the Lato and the Braton the same way, but the thing is we have the Braton Prime in the latter case.

as for the people who came in later it's like the corrupted ashbringer in WoW, you'll never see it again, and you'll be jealous of the few people that still have it, but it doesn't really make the game any different. He came with his own Warframe slot and was already augmented with an Orokin Reactor.

More than anything though, he is a symbol for one of the benefits of taking a risk.

There is no such things as exclusive weapons that impacts or break gameplay.

The fact is, a LOT of people would have shelled out some cash to help out DE in the beginning, if they only knew about it. This would be much less of an issue to me if it was just a skin, but it's not, it actually impacts gameplay. Third off, this makes no sense, if you could sue due to the change of fundemental aspects of a digital product, then I could sue DE for changing their game so much, it no longer resembles the closed beta version, see the problem here? I like the Lato.

Being aware of a game (especially at launching) is not enough to help his development. Gave them the weapons of the old ways. They had turned our weapons, our technology, against us. There are founders that will not under any circumstances break that contract off, and so long as even a single one doesn't, it will remain exclusive. You again fail to provide evidence for this claim. So if it turns out that Excalibur Umbra is better than his Prime counterpart, or comparable, this won't be an issue anymore, at least with him.
More than anything though, he is a symbol for one of the benefits of taking a risk.

EFFICIENCY 100%. When I read arguments like this, it bothers me deeply that it always boils down to what the designers have the legal right to do or not do. A lot of us did it for the love of the game, and the Warframe team understands and respects that; it's why a lot of us founders keep coming back for more.I was a poor student when I scraped together the founders pack 50 bucks, not knowing if this game was going to amount to anything, but thought the concept was just so cool and new. They're definitely contributing to keeping the game alive. I personally blame marketing. They're definitely contributing to keeping the game alive.

I view things like, for instance, the Vandal versions of the Lato and the Braton the same way, but the thing is we have the Braton Prime in the latter case. Of course they would. DURATION 100%. But back to the argument: Players are upset that they can't get excal p because most people have the mindset of collecting every single thing in a game (may have started with Pokemon, but I'm guessing on that).

the other option which would make it pointless is if DE went into a money issue and released excal prime for purchase again before ditching the game so basically take the money and run situation which with the game gaining so much people and revinue RN that does not look probable Excal prime is fucking redundant thanks to excal umbra and his nikana, get your exclusivity shit on nerds

I do love my Excalibur prime, but often times feel bad breaking him out because of all the shade that gets thrown my way, usually in chat.

Some haven't as well.

if they were they might have not even given platinum trading option to players and made the in game items hard to obtain.

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